Kenta: I started programming since when I was about 6 years old. Main reason why was that I used to play a lot of those online games when I was a child and I really had a short temper/patience so I wanted to finish up those games quickly, and so I got into hacking games. That went on to me playing multiplayer games, hacking those, and learning how to create my own software. Afterwards, I created my own little online shop selling virtual currency for real US dollars back then. That went on from game hacking to me eventually developing into a great hacker. I used to make a lot of malware, RAT’s, key loggers, etc. In making them and using them, I would be selling them off to a lot of other fellow hackers and a bunch of different underground forums. I just want to mention those underground forums because this was all the way back in early 2009. What was really interesting was from what I saw from my perspective when I was little, these underground forums were the first ones to adopt Bitcoin from an early standpoint. Back then, hackers found it very tedious to be able to give money to other hackers in exchange for buying licenses for all different kinds of software. They used to use Liberty Reserve, Western Union, PayPal, but as of course as you know they’re highly centralised services. Some of them actually got shut down by the FBI. I think Libery Reserve is down now. And then Bitcoin got into the space. Hackers all of a sudden started mining Bitcoin and just decided to use it to facilitate all kinds of different underground deals. As part of the movement I had a whole bunch of Bitcoin back then. I intentionally sold mine when it was around the 1.4K mark around 2014ish. Then afterwards I eventually I retired off of my hacker career. I went over to doing some legitimate businesses; learning how to make web, mobile, desktop apps, did a bunch of contract deals, worked as a freelancer when I turned 14. Then went on to doing AI, signal processing. I got a knack for it because I entered Google science fair, won that, and then proceeded onwards to working as the Head of Research for Naver. I then did a bunch of hackathons- University of Pennsylvania, MIT, Google, etc.